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[the bodj]

Oh yeah, found my passenger motor mount is broken. I’ll get it braced and back to service

 

[mrbrown]

This build got wild!

 

[the bodj]

This build got wild!

Yes it did! It got way faster with that small change to the shocks. Gonna add some door bars to the cage to help stiffen it up a bit more for peace of mind.

 

[85Yota]

What's your plan for the steering now?

 

[FasterNU]

that motor mount looks like it is failing both sides...

 

[the bodj]

What's your plan for the steering now?

Single swing

that motor mount looks like it is failing both sides...

Correct, it is. I'm going to remake them out of 1/4" and box them in.

 

[Turboyota]

Yes it did! It got way faster with that small change to the shocks. Gonna add some door bars to the cage to help stiffen it up a bit more for peace of mind.

Please make sure to consult @GahnRacing for proper door bar placement and construction techniques

 

[the bodj]

Please make sure to consult @GahnRacing for proper door bar placement and construction techniques

I was just going to make a sick spider web pattern to really make it accessible

 

[SByota]

Don’t forget proper in cabin air filter placement.

Seems like those motor mount tabs are flexing front to back causing them to crack. I think plating between them will be enough. Don’t forget the dimple die!

 

[the bodj]

Don’t forget proper in cabin air filter placement.

Seems like those motor mount tabs are flexing front to back causing them to crack. I think plating between them will be enough. Don’t forget the dimple die!

I agree. I think I'll just drill the end of the crack, grind, and weld it back together (much like @Turboyota spindles lol), box it in, and maybe tig an 1/8" overlay plate if I'm feeling spicy

 

[GahnRacing]

Please make sure to consult @GahnRacing for proper door bar placement and construction techniques

I was just going to make a sick spider web pattern to really make it accessible

Don’t forget proper in cabin air filter placement.

Will you guys please allow me to go fuck myself now? lol

 

[the bodj]

Will you guys please allow me to go fuck myself now? lol

Found some inspiration for you

 

[the bodj]

Guess I never updated this.

After the CleanDezert event I eventually fixed the ripped motor mount, and did the same preventative fix for the driver side as well

From this


To this





*SNAPS STRAP* "That ain't goin' anywhere"


I 3D scanned the front end and bought the necessary heims to do dual swing steer, but decided that's going to be a bigger project than I have time for right now. The stock extended steering has been lasting me the past three years, and the bending only started from landing hard on the passenger front tire off a jump, so I just threw a new Moog oem tie rod on to get me back in the dirt. I need to do an oil change, thorough nut and bolt check, and then it'll be ready to go.

 

[Cleandezert]

motor mounts look legit, jealous of your tig welds, that is something i wish i had time and energy to learn. Makes overlays like you did so much nicer looking.

 

[the bodj]

motor mounts look legit, jealous of your tig welds, that is something i wish i had time and energy to learn. Makes overlays like you did so much nicer looking.

Thanks Adam. I definitely like switching back and forth between mig and tig. Each has their place. Tig is nice if you're not thrashing to get it together, and it's quiet so it's pretty relaxing to just sit and slowly weld away. Mig is definitely more chaotic

 

[the bodj]

Maybe someone smart can chime in. I've been trying to design my dual swing steering from my desk for a while now. Just keeping things static right now and I'm going nuts.

My process is create an axis through the passenger radius arm pivot and beam pivot, and create a line perpendicular to that axis that goes through the steering arm. From that I am able to create an arc the steering arm makes as the suspension cycles.

Along the original radius arm/beam pivot axis I made a grid of points that I am able to use to as inner passenger tie rod pivot locations, making the arc a tie rod would make. The deviation between the arcs is how much bump steer would be induced. I am measuring at 8" bump and 8" droop, since that's how my front is set up. To get the best results for arc intersection, I believe the arcs should be of equal radius, pivot as close to each other as possible, and both pivoting about the same axis.

I'm not terribly thrilled with the numbers I'm seeing. This setup shows about 1/4" bumpsteer at bump and over 1/2" at droop. Measuring at the tires amplifies those numbers. Anyone have any thoughts? Anything I'm missing?

Front


Bottom


Looking at the passeger corner



I may end up trying to break up the scan into individual parts so I can make each part a solid body and allow everything to pivot around. I feel like that's going to suck but is the next step to make sure things clear

 

[85Yota]

They're dirty hookers, Bumpsteer is in their blood. Even threat dual swing steering on Bronco's has over 1" of toe change, and you don't notice it at all when driving. I will say I don't do CAD stuff but old school move cycle tape measure etc has worked for me but it take a lot of time and 2 people make it much easier.

 

[DesertGoat]

at first glance your process for drawing the arcs makes sense to me.
i think you're just realizing why beam trucks handle the way they do.
just set yourelf a success criteria for allowable bumpsteer that is >0 and iterate until you hit that then party on.

this maybe is why some guys tried those center mounted radius arm setups.

 

[the bodj]

at first glance your process for drawing the arcs makes sense to me.
i think you're just realizing why beam trucks handle the way they do.
just set yourelf a success criteria for allowable bumpsteer that is >0 and iterate until you hit that then party on.

this maybe is why some guys tried those center mounted radius arm setups.

Totally. I'm just trying to figure out how to make it as good as I can. 1" of bumpsteer like Tommy was saying is totally unacceptable to me - I might as well just continue running stock steering at that point (aside from deflection and strength).

 

[the_fablab_]

You're funny if you think stock steering has ANYWHERE near one inch of bump steer with the amount of wheel travel you have.