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[the bodj]

Using a stock Pitman arm or drop pitman arm?
I’ve always heard a drop pitman arm increase bumpsteer but never cycled one myself.

Using the inner tie rod pivot I'm currently using since it was already pulled up.

Chipping away. I'm really liking this so far. Things fit nicely, very small bends, Should be pretty easy to build.



Driver frame rail swinger will have to be recessed into the frame, and unfortunately it looks like I need a raised pitman arm?


The tie rod at bump is right where the pitman arm needs to be. It looks like a lot of room in the picture below, but it's only ~3/4" where the nut will need to fit, reducing it down to quarter inch clearance.


Looking at it from the passenger side with the pass side swinger removed. I can extend the pitman arm and drop it down like a horseshoe around the tie rod, but that seems weird to me.



Full bump going straight. The only interference I see is if the driver tire is 100% bumped and turning left, which I don't ever see happening.



I'd see it happening here at the swinger and tie rod



A little more bend would probably solve it, but it's already at 15* and I don't want much more. I can move the Driver frame rail swinger rear another 1/4", which might help. Probably move the other swinger a little forward, too.

The blue circle is the path of the steering arm at full bump (not exactly, as it's shown on the flat plane, not the angled plane the beam actually makes), but it's enough to show the arm moves forward as it turns right, and rearward as it turns left. The black horizontal line represents 7" of side to side movement, or about 46* of arc.




At this point I guess I get to move the swingers forward and backward a bit to see how it all clears

 

[84Prerunner]

What diameter tie rod material are you planning?

 

[the bodj]

What diameter tie rod material are you planning?

1.25" sleeved with 1"

Edit: Shoot. I'm wrong. I have 1.5" that's being sleeved with 1.25". Gonna make things tighter.

 

[the bodj]

Changed the shape of the swingers to make clearance, dropped the crossover tube from 1.5" to 1.25", and moved it rearward a bit on the pass frame side swinger so it no longer contacts the driver tie rod.







Ride height


At this point I think this is the final iteration. I can convert the swingers from solid bodies to sheet metal, and start getting things cut on the plasma table.

 

[DialedShockPrep]

this might help you out with packaging as well, but on my truck and Marcels, and a handful of others, the link that connects the pitman arm/box to the system is tied to the centerlink between the swingers. This helps with packaging and as long as you run wobble stops over the spacers it’s fine. You can also get away with standard misalignment spacers for most of the system since yo don’t need high misalignment spacers, which also narrows everything up and tightens packaging.

 

[the bodj]

this might help you out with packaging as well, but on my truck and Marcels, and a handful of others, the link that connects the pitman arm/box to the system is tied to the centerlink between the swingers. This helps with packaging and as long as you run wobble stops over the spacers it’s fine. You can also get away with standard misalignment spacers for most of the system since yo don’t need high misalignment spacers, which also narrows everything up and tightens packaging.

I was actually going to do exactly that, but it didn't really gain me anything, since it's not the drag link that's in the way, but the cross link between the swingers. You've been reading my mind - I'll be running narrow spacers where needed.

 

[FasterNU]

yea might be able to narrow the swingers themselves using the rodends where ball has spacer built in. FK HRSMX I believe?? They seem pretty narrow.... (but shoulder isnt all that big unfortunately)

 

[the bodj]

yea might be able to narrow the swingers themselves using the rodends where ball has spacer built in. FK HRSMX I believe?? They seem pretty narrow.... (but shoulder isnt all that big unfortunately)

That's ok. I was able to get it all to clear.

 

[the bodj]

Took a break from steering stuff to prepare for our Mojave rd trip this weekend.

Moved all my tools into two tool rolls that live in the compartment under the spare tire. That left an empty void where the two craftsman toolboxes were mounted. Built a storage box and got out just about everything that was floating in the cab. It has a lid that hinges and a gas strut. Seam sealed all the seams and added foam gasket around the lip, so it should be weatherproof.



Trans cooler line cracked and was seeping, so made a new one out of ptfe hose. No pictures.

Added a storage bag chingadera to the back of the roll cage from Amazon. Seems to stay put really well and holds things I want easy access to like toilet paper, wipes, zip ties, first aid kit…


The oem filler neck was leaking, so fixed it up nice like.


Tomorrow is packing clothes, food shopping, and checking fluids.

 

[Motiracer38]

That's a nifty box. I need to make two small ones that I can't find an off the shelf solution for so need to remember to scope that out.

 

[juberafab]

Bodj,
I must have missed it, did u scan and convert the files? I went back a few pages but didnt see it. Need to get on here more. Missing all this awesome content.

 

[WW_RANGER_X]

Wish i could go! I hope to see a full trail report when you get back!